So it appears

I'd list off the stuff I'd done, but I don't want to make your head spin.

haha ok

i lost 2-1 to toss yesterday, hows that for head spinning

Yaq already gave me battle reports on ventrilo about those games, way ahead of you.

Salv wrote:Yaq already gave me battle reports on ventrilo about those games, way ahead of you.

ok so I expect that theres a tl.net thread on it already?

He is gunna' battle report your games with him and my PvT loss to you; all in one thread

Known, you know I disagree with you on this.

Caliban has done more for this clan then I've ever had. Sure, I come on east here and their and play with members and play ICCup on my SCC-Toss name and whatnot but I am so lazy when it comes to recruiting members and anything. Caliban helped me alot with the WGTCL in getting players to come and other stuff.

I'm not sure if you remember but their was times where Caliban didn't have a computer/internet or was busy visiting his gf Melly and has school/work and just wasn't able to come on SC a lot. Now, I guess his work or school is cut down so hes able to come on SC now. I can understand that he didn't have time to do things outside of his bot and playing SC.

I don't consider this clan dead. I don't understand your definition of a dead team? You do know that some people like to just be in a team and have a clan tag with other people. Sure we don't really have tournaments unless me and Cali organize one or something and we don't play a lot of CW's. I guess me and Cali can work on that if everything works out but this clan has so many active members who wear SCC- tag and game on ICCup and East like

SCC-oTo (as much as I don't like him he is active)
SCC-Bud
SCC-Bean
Me
SCC-Known
Cali
SCC-Just
SCC-Abood

etc etc

I could go on and on. This is a team. I believe you don't grasp the concept. Sure, we are not as competitive as other teams. I guess its cause some people are lazy (like me) and we just love pushing on all the responsibility on Cali and blaming all the Clan's problems on him and Duke. Don't you remember that Cali used to take initiative and set up the system for who plays in WGT-CL with the Team A/Team B thing and he even set up a inner-clan ranking system for his bot.

A clan is dead when no one logs online East/ICCup or like 1-2 people only log on cause that it the 'name' they use on East but they don't consider the point. We are not dead now. We just aren't. A clan doesn't have to have an amazing forum/tournaments and clan wars to be a team. You should understand that. Me and you are in swbk which is just a group a friends that do stuff together and post on a site. I almost consider that a clan and we just play together (like SCC members do) and have a tournament maybe once every 6-8 months and the site is barely updated (i.e main page). I don't see why you are complaining. Heck, you don't even consider yourself a part of SCC. Sure, I'm in sMi on USWest/ICCup but still as long as I'm not banned from this clan, then I'll be posting here and showing up on East once and a while.

That's the thing I despise. You think SCC dead and don't really give a shit about it yet you come here to rag on Cali and his leadership abilities. Sure Caliban is not an amazing leader but its not like he hasn't done anything in the last 2-3 years. He has done a lot that you fail to see and fail to acknowledge.

I really just don't see the benefit of your post. As I said above, a clan is what the people in it want it to be. Some clans plays cws and others don't. We can work on that. As for me <3 Caliban as someone who did do something while others did nothing and said 'F***' it, if SCC dies I don't care while he actually tried to prevent it from happening.
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Caliban does recruit people. I fail to see how you've missed that. For a long time (since Deng went afk again) it was Caliban and Invalid recruiting iirc.

Maybe if we work as a Team we can get everything done instead of shouldering the burden on Caliban who works and goes to school and on the weekend has a life with his girl-friend...

Salv you are brusque to a fault.

SCC-Micronesia wrote:Salv you are brusque to a fault.

Someone has to be.

Salv wrote:

SCC-Micronesia wrote:Salv you are brusque to a fault.

Someone has to be.

I disagree. You can make the tough points while putting things delicately and get equal (or better) results.

SCC-Micronesia wrote:

Salv wrote:

SCC-Micronesia wrote:Salv you are brusque to a fault.

Someone has to be.

I disagree. You can make the tough points while putting things delicately and get equal (or better) results.

Salv is an amazing people person. I'm sure he has like 3 friends. Counting Toss and Suppy.

OMG THIS SITE IS GOING TO BE SHUT DOWN !!!

SCC-Micronesia wrote:

Salv wrote:

SCC-Micronesia wrote:Salv you are brusque to a fault.

Someone has to be.

I disagree. You can make the tough points while putting things delicately and get equal (or better) results.

Perhaps, perhaps not. It's subjective really.

SCC-Caliban wrote:Salv is an amazing people person. I'm sure he has like 3 friends. Counting Toss and Suppy.

Who is the third?

Caliban?

No, oto.